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laura
08-18-2008, 09:40 PM
Hi. I was wondering if I could have some help with my assignment 5 submission. Here are the shots I am considering. CC welcome/requested. Thanks.

Framing:
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Leading Lines:
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laura
08-18-2008, 09:42 PM
Rule of thirds:

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laura
08-19-2008, 03:44 PM
Personally, I'm anchoring towards the first shot for framing, the only one I have for leading lines so far and the second rule of thirds.

Other opinions welcome.

laura
08-19-2008, 03:52 PM
Still looking for Rhythm, diagnols and contrast...

coffee
08-19-2008, 04:49 PM
Ok Laura I will have a go here. First of all I like your photos, especially the very first one. I love the B&W, the lines. and also the contrast between the smooth arch and the destruction or just the age of the structure taking it's toll on top there. I think because of this, this photo is a wonderful contrasting photo than anything, I also think you did a great job on the composition. Well done. I think the shot is a little dark though, either that or it's my monitor, but you might check the levels in PS and see if it need adjusting.

Now my understanding of framing is that you include something in the photo that frames the subject or something of interest. In this case I have a hard time seeing where any of the photos posted would work for framing. They do have rhythm to them however.

And again for the leading lines. leading lines, at least to my understanding, usually draws your eye into the picture, and leads to the subject or something you want to view to notice. In your leading lines photo, the road doesn't lead to anything of interest or a subject. It does however draw your eye into the photo.

As far as rule of thirds, I love the photos. They are wonderful landscapes for sure. Are they showing the best example of what you can come up with for the Rule Of Thirds? I don't think so. Rule of thirds is more for composition. Instead of centering the subject and making a rather dull photo, the rule of thirds makes the entire photo more interesting to the viewer. The subject in your examples are the entire photo. The entire landscape is your subject. So it might not work so well for RofT. However, the first example does do a better job of RoT than the second one. You have the forground, the background and the sky where they would need to be to make this an interesting and well balance photo. So this one might work for you.

Keep in mind that this is just one mans opinion. That's the beauty of photography. Everyone sees different things. And I'm sure others will have a different take on these.

These are very nice shots. Where were the first 3 done at?

laura
08-19-2008, 05:05 PM
Thank you Joseph.
The first three are of Lilleshall Abbey in Shropshire, England. Its the remains of a 12th and 13th century monastry. Its a really beautiful place...A bit eerie though, its supposed to be haunted and you do get that feeling when you are there!

I agree with your comment on framing, I did think that myself to be honest. But I thought i'd post them and see what everyone else thought.

I see what you mean about the leading lines and rule of thirds, they do lack that added interest/subject.

Thank you so much for the advice.

coffee
08-19-2008, 05:23 PM
Thank you Joseph.
The first three are of Lilleshall Abbey in Shropshire, England. Its the remains of a 12th and 13th century monastry. Its a really beautiful place...A bit eerie though, its supposed to be haunted and you do get that feeling when you are there!

I agree with your comment on framing, I did think that myself to be honest. But I thought i'd post them and see what everyone else thought.

I see what you mean about the leading lines and rule of thirds, they do lack that added interest/subject.

Thank you so much for the advice.

You are very welcome. And keep in mind, that the instructors will give you their honest opinion, good or bad, and grade accordingly. If there is one thing I learned about this course and the instructors, that is to submit the very best photos that you can take, and make sure it is what the lesson is loooking for. If you have doughts in your mind that it might not be the best you can do, then take more time and keep working on that lesson untill you are 100% happy with it. That's what will make you a better photographer.

Don't get me wrong on the interest quality of your landscapes though. Your first example is a very good shot, and does have lots of interest there. I was looking at it as an example of RoT, and not so much as a landscape. This photo might serve you well later on though when you are asked for a landscape.

laura
08-19-2008, 05:27 PM
I guess the reason I posted them here was because I wasn't sure about them, thus not 100% happy. I think I can get better shots so I'm going to keep going until I get them.
Thank you for the words of encouragement Joseph, it is really appreciated.

coffee
08-19-2008, 05:32 PM
I guess the reason I posted them here was because I wasn't sure about them, thus not 100% happy. I think I can get better shots so I'm going to keep going until I get them.
Thank you for the words of encouragement Joseph, it is really appreciated.

I was just looking at your gallery Laura. Some very nice shots there. I was most impressed with this shot:
http://www.proudphotography.com/forum/gallery/showimage.php?i=1021&catid=member&imageuser=1360
Now this one is a wonderfully done framing photo.

laura
08-19-2008, 05:38 PM
I was just looking at your gallery Laura. Some very nice shots there. I was most impressed with this shot:
http://www.proudphotography.com/forum/gallery/showimage.php?i=1021&catid=member&imageuser=1360
Now this one is a wonderfully done framing photo.

:)I do like that shot myself, its over a year old now (as you can see from the awful date stamp) and with a cheap-nasty camera! But I used this one as one of the three we had to submit at the beginning of the course so can't use it again. The background is out of focus but it is what I should be looking for for framing I agree.

laura
08-19-2008, 09:03 PM
CC from anyone else would also be appreciated

dkippen
08-21-2008, 10:49 PM
Laura - I like the first B&W as well, the other two have the pine branch which can be distracting. On my monitor it looks flat, but at work, it's hard to tell under fluorescent lights and cheapo monitor, but as Joseph said, check your levels. As for rule of thirds, I unfortunately am not a very good judge as I struggle with this.

laura
08-22-2008, 09:42 AM
Thanks for your reply Debbie, I'm going out this weekend to try and get some better shots.

jerryph
08-22-2008, 06:56 PM
The framing ones are nice, I like the colour ones a tiny bit more than the B&W ones.

Leading lines... would have been better if that gate was not there, it kinda interferes a touch.

Don't hesitate to let your imagination go a little and even not always look for straight lines. Leading lines can be crooked too! Feel your eyes following the track from the bottom all around the corner. ;) :D

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3293/2394807918_2049967fc2.jpg

laura
08-24-2008, 03:41 PM
Okay, heres a couple more for Rule of Thirds. Any advice is appreciated?


Tried to position the tree in the bottom corner , and the horizon a third from the bottom...
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I like that the figure is in the bottom corner, but not sure whether the fact that the end of the glider isn't showing spoils the image???
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laura
08-24-2008, 04:07 PM
Would this one work for rule of thirds???

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