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coffee
08-02-2009, 12:59 AM
I’ve been asked what setting I’m using for my macro images so I thought I would post this link.

First off, when doing macro shots, I always shoot in manual. The main reason for this is because when shooting with an aperture of 13 mostly, and using flash, the camera will still shoot the image with very little light coming into the lens. And if you are in aperture priority let’s say, the shutter speed will be way to slow at f13 to get good focus do to camera shake or a moving subject if shooting insect, or plants in the wind. This is all assuming you are hand holding like I do most of the time. And when in manual and have flash attached, the flash change it level of flash to do it's best to expose the shot properly assuming you aren't too close, or too far away from the subject. Meaning not outside the flashes effective range.

My go to settings for my 40d, 100mm macro and 430EX is: Aperture at f13, shutter at 250. 250 is high enough to combat camera shake with the 100mm, and stop most movement from insect and anything what is moving due to wind and such. It’s not fast enough how ever to bring things like bee wings into focus if they are flying, so it gives a great sense of movement, but still keep the bee in focus. Here is a shot of what that might look like. I always start with these setting and adjust a little depending on the conditions.

I check the histogram while shooting for proper exposure. If it's over or under-exposed, I adjust the flash compensation on the flash unit itself.

If not using flash, of course the camera setting would change. You would certainly be using a larger aperture, and a faster shutter in most cases.

verikos
08-02-2009, 09:11 AM
Thanks for posting this Joseph, I found it very useful. I'm just starting out with my new macro lens (Tamron 90mm 2.8) and for the last week have been trying my best to shoot everything and anything. I've only really stuck to Av mode and of course under some situations the shutter speed is far too slow. I've had to use a tripod in most cases (with some willing subjects).

I always tend to 'stay away' from Manual mode (frightens the life out of me!) but now I will try out the settings that you recommended. One question though - I don't have an external flash (yet!) If I use the camera's built-in flash, will this give the same effect? :)

coffee
08-02-2009, 10:40 AM
Thanks for posting this Joseph, I found it very useful. I'm just starting out with my new macro lens (Tamron 90mm 2.8) and for the last week have been trying my best to shoot everything and anything. I've only really stuck to Av mode and of course under some situations the shutter speed is far too slow. I've had to use a tripod in most cases (with some willing subjects).

I always tend to 'stay away' from Manual mode (frightens the life out of me!) but now I will try out the settings that you recommended. One question though - I don't have an external flash (yet!) If I use the camera's built-in flash, will this give the same effect? :)

You can certainly try and see, but I think you will find the built-in-flash not as powerful or versatile. When you are at f13/16, you need a lot of flash power, and I don't think the cameras will do as well as an external.

mj702002
08-02-2009, 02:11 PM
Thanks Joseph...I have actually been experimenting in manual mode for a few weeks now that I have a "very" basic understanding of the shutter and aperature...unfortunately I don't have the macro...but when I bring my camera to work and am shooting the horses I had been shooting in shutter priority, now the last few weeks that I have been trying to shoot them in manual I have found that I can get some different effects.

Pat
08-02-2009, 02:53 PM
I suppose if you're going to get quite serious about macro, what you'd need is a ring flash (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_flash).
There is a huge variation in prices (http://reviews.cnet.com/4566-13039_7-0.html?filter=501015_6090618_).
I'm guessing the difference in price has to do with the quality of the light spectrum emitted. In the case of leds, cheaper leds will give you a blue cast (probably correctable in pp). Full spectrum leds are pricier.

coffee
08-03-2009, 01:40 PM
Ya a flash ring would be nice. But there are ways to rig your setup to really help your macro images. Here is a link that has many good ideas.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=142566&highlight=macro+set+up

coffee
08-05-2009, 12:56 AM
Thanks Joseph...I have actually been experimenting in manual mode for a few weeks now that I have a "very" basic understanding of the shutter and aperature...unfortunately I don't have the macro...but when I bring my camera to work and am shooting the horses I had been shooting in shutter priority, now the last few weeks that I have been trying to shoot them in manual I have found that I can get some different effects.

Yes manual mode is great. I don't use it for things like birds in flight and fast moving things. When shooting birds with my 1-400, I shoot in shutter priority and have it set to 1/750 since I have to combat camera shake to a focal length of 1/640. 400 for the focal length plus 240 for the 1.6 crop factor. The only problem with this lens is that you need good light. 5.6 is the biggest aperture I can get at 400mm, so it's a fine line I have to walk even in good light between long enough shutter for good exposure, and short enough for camera shake and to stop the action.