Approach....

[coffee]

Thought I would throw this one out there. Had an early morning shoot near MSP, and thought I would give some big planes a go. Problem was that it was very foggy, so most images are toast, but I wanted to try and save a few by redirection. Tried a little B&W abstract with this one. Be brutal, I can handle it.

[delboy]

Hi Joseph

I am no expert but I like that photo. I like the way you have captured the con trails coming off the flaps. I have seen many a con trail from the wing tips of aircraft but never off the flaps. Had to look twice to make sure I was seeing correctly. I also like the grainy look, gives it atmosphere.

Regards

Delboy

[coffee]

Thanks for the comments and observation Delboy. I never noticed till you said something about the contrails. I've never seen these off the flaps either. It certainly is a departure of my normal shooting and editing style. When I decided to give this a go, I was so busy researching the right areas to be, printing off maps, and working the gps like a grand piano that I didn't check the weather close enough. There was just enough fog and heaviness in the air to take away a lot of vibrance and some focus. But I decided to keep shooting anyway and try some different things with shots. Here is one other image from the shoot. Thanks again.

[DoctorJazz]

Hi Joseph,

No. 2 is stunning!! I love the color and "sheen" in this one.

[coffee]

Hi Joseph,

No. 2 is stunning!! I love the color and "sheen" in this one.

Thank you Sandy for the comments. I must be honest, I'm not too sure how much I like them, BUT.....if you were to see the untouched original RAW's :)

I remember what one of my good friends from PP said to me when we met up for a nature shoot here in MN. Debbie(dkippen) told me what her friend/instructor told her when we discussed hanging on to "bad" images. "Bad images aren't going to get better sitting in your computer." This of course made me laugh at first, but made perfect sense.

Shortly after that I spent the majority of 6 months going through all my images, and threw about 60,000 out. I don't miss them and recaptured lots of space. It was cleansing.

BUT......some months ago I started a thread about looking over your "bad" images before throwing them out, and try to do something creative with them. You never know what you can turn them into if you are interested at all in post work.

Thanks Sandy.

[DoctorJazz]

Hi Joseph,

Those numbers (of images) are staggering! For me the throw away images way outnumber the keepers, so I am pretty good at deleting, but I have appreciated
going back and applying many of the concepts I am learning here to some of the
older images. It has helped me learn my way around Photoshop too, to have a
low quality image that I don't like and am not too wrapped up in the outcome....those images have some value in freeing up the creative process for
someone starting out. They are also really good motivators (for me) to just go out and take some better shots! Then the ultimate reward is when you can go out and make things happen with the camera.....someday.....

I think of your water drop macro shots as a perfect example of this.

Happy Editing!!

[coffee]

Hi Joseph,

Those numbers (of images) are staggering! For me the throw away images way outnumber the keepers, so I am pretty good at deleting, but I have appreciated
going back and applying many of the concepts I am learning here to some of the
older images. It has helped me learn my way around Photoshop too, to have a
low quality image that I don't like and am not too wrapped up in the outcome....those images have some value in freeing up the creative process for
someone starting out. They are also really good motivators (for me) to just go out and take some better shots! Then the ultimate reward is when you can go out and make things happen with the camera.....someday.....

I think of your water drop macro shots as a perfect example of this.

Happy Editing!!

Any time you get out with your camera Sandy, you ARE making things happen. I cringe a little when I hear people knock others for using auto modes. You don't hear it much in this forum cause most are respectful.

You know what, you photographers with your noses in the air, the person takes the image, not the camera. If it's auto mode that gets a person out taking shots and loving life, I say that's perfect. The hardest work in photography I feel is knowing what to take, the composition, what makes a shot interesting, what makes a viewer loose it's breath for a moment. Not if I used f/8 over f/5.6.

Getting off auto into semi-manual or full manual is rewarding and a great thing for someone that strives to do it. But shame on you Mr. Photographer for thinking less of an beautiful image shot in full auto vs. manual.

Anyone with me?

[Kaye]

Joseph, I love both your shots, but No. 2 is the favourite here. I am a sucker for silhouettes, and the colours are beautiful.

And... yes I am with you on your last comments.

In my opinion, a camera has very limited capabilities, and would be lost without its user, as it cannot think and has no artistic visions built into its memory.

A camera needs the right person to find the right shot in the right place at the right time, and to set the right settings for the right shot. Who cares what the settings are if the shot is magnificent!

It is the user who has the control and the eye, and whether auto, manual or in between, it is still the final image that captures the eye.

[verikos]

I love the 2nd shot Joseph, particulary the colour, silhouette and the texture in the sky.

I agree with you and Kaye. Of course there is great satisfaction when you actually know how to use your camera properly, that's what we all strive for isn't it? And to produce an image that needs minimal post work. But I often use the AUTO setting as a kind of safety net. Just in case my 'experimental' shots that I've taken with semi-auto mode are not usable. That way, at least I didn't miss a good photo opportunity.